In a taped interview with ABC News' Jonathan Karl, former President Donald Trump defended those who had threatened to harm former Vice President Mike Pence during the Jan. 6 riot.
The audio was shared with Axios. Let's take a listen.
TRUMP: No, I thought he was well-protected, and I had heard that he was in good shape. No. Because I had heard he was in very good shape. But, but, no, I think.
KARL: Because you heard those chants — that was terrible. I mean —
TRUMP: He could have — well, the people were very angry.
KARL: They were saying "hang Mike Pence."
TRUMP: Because it's common sense, Jon. It's common sense that you're supposed to protect. How can you — if you know a vote is fraudulent, right? — how can you pass on a fraudulent vote to Congress?
This clip is from a 90-minute interview from March while at Mar-a-Lago.
It was for Karl's book "Betrayal," which hits stores next week.
Following numerous investigations, there has been no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.